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Twisted Identity

When you’ve gotten past the guilt-tripping, the pathologization, and the demonization, the next hurdle is the attack on White identity.

“Aw gee, who’s White anyway? What does White really mean?”

This installment continues the examination of ethny, nation, and race – what they are and how they are related. The terms “civic nationalism”, “cultural nationalism”, and “deracinated nationalism” demonstrate how the meaning of nation, specifically, has become so distorted and misunderstood.

I cite the Wikipedia article Ethnic nationalism:

Herodotus is the first who stated the main characteristics of ethnicity, with his famous account of what defines Greek identity, where he lists kinship (Greek: ὅμαιμον – homaimon, “of the same blood”[2]), language (Greek: ὁμόγλωσσον – homoglōsson, “speaking the same language”[3]), cults and customs (Greek: ὁμότροπον – homotropon, “of the same habits or life”)

See also, Nation:

A nation may refer to a community of people who share a common language, culture, ethnicity, descent, or history.

In this definition, a nation has no physical borders. However, it can also refer to people who share a common territory and government (for example the inhabitants of a sovereign state) irrespective of their ethnic make-up.[2][3] In international relations, nation can refer to a country or sovereign state.

According to Joseph Stalin writing in 1913 in Marxism and the National Question: “a nation is not a racial or tribal, but a historically constituted community of people;” “a nation is not a casual or ephemeral conglomeration, but a stable community of people;” “a common language is one of the characteristic features of a nation;” “a nation is formed only as a result of lengthy and systematic intercourse, as a result of people living together generation after generation;” “a common territory is one of the characteristic features of a nation;” “a common economic life, economic cohesion, is one of the characteristic features of a nation;” “a common psychological make-up, which manifests itself in a common culture, is one of the characteristic features of a nation;” “A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.” According to Stalin, this would exclude Jews as they have no common territory.[4]

An alternative view, expressed by Otto Bauer, author of Social Democracy and the Nationalities Question (1907), that “A nation is an aggregate of people bound into a community of character by a common destiny.” would include Jews.

Identity in US presidential selection season headlines – Russell Simmons: Romney and Ryan ‘will destroy our people’.

Rich, famous, non-White Russell Simmons sent a series of twits on 11 August 2012:

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, two men who will destroy our people… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

W/ ryan as vp choice women gays minorities & all undeserved and compassionate people now have clear direction #Obama

Now women have a clear choice for President, Barack Obama… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

African-Americans have a clear choice for President. It’s Barack Obama… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

Latinos have a clear choice for President. It’s Barack Obama… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

Compassionate people have a clear choice for President. It’s Barack Obama… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

Under-served communities have a clear choice for President. It’s Barack Obama… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

LGBTQ community has a clear choice for President. It’s Barack Obama… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

All minorities have a clear choice for President. It’s Barack Obama… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

All young people have a clear choice for President. It’s Barack Obama… http://bit.ly/QQjEul PLEASE RETWEET

The bit.ly link is to an article Simmons wrote, Mitt Romney & Paul Ryan, Two Men Who Will Destroy Poor America!

Simmons’ outburst highlights the two faces of contemporary anti-White identity politics. His article presents a classic Marxist view – class warfare, rich versus poor. His tweets present the more modern, cultural Marxist view – a coalition of non-White races and various other victim group identities versus the over-served, uncompassionate, old, sexually normal White men.

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“Hitler escaped the Bunker” and other delusional thinking

August 13, 2012

Carolyn Yeager mixes up several topics in this program, beginning with the strange phenomenon of otherwise intelligent people, such as CODOH Forum members, wanting to believe the most impossible stories about  Adolf Hitler “escaping” from the Berlin Bunker in April 1945, and making a dramatic passage via submarine to Argentina … or even Antarctica (!), as shown in the illustration at right which shows a sub entering a secret portal. 

In the second hour, Carolyn addresses the comments by Greg Johnson on a long thread at VNN Forum, including a final comment by Alex Linder.  She then has time for some words on building White racial consciousness, which will continue next week.

 

 
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Günter Deckert: Frictions in the Eurozone

August 11, 2012

Günter Deckert joins Carolyn from Germany to discuss the breaks in European nations’ solidarity in the face of the growing fiscal crisis. It is being described as “increasing stereotyping of Northern vs. Southern Europeans, with Germans criticized most, naturally, as they become more resentful of bailing out other nations. Günter makes this very plain.

The ongoing government attack on anything and everything on the “right” is brought up to date, including the latest revelation about Beate Zschäpe working for the government.

The controversy over the German Olympic rower Drygalla has devolved into talk of a “democracy pledge” that all sports stars representing Germany must sign. No one suggests far-leftists would need to sign one.

Finally, the Roma problem in Europe and how the European Union has exacerbated it and other immigration problems.

Gunter gives his expert opinion on all this, plus shares about his latest trips to London and Paris.

Image at right: The Pecking Order. Who’s in and who’s out in the European Union.

 
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“The International Jew” Study Hour – Episode 7

August 9, 2012

Hadding Scott and Carolyn Yeager complete Chapter 5 from last week.

Reading and commentary on the second half of  Chapter 5, “Anti-Semitism – Will It Appear in the U.S.?

Pictured right:  In the early 20th Century in Russia, Jewish agitation, plotting, terrorism and assassinations resulted in pogroms  against the Jews by the Czars and Russian people. However, “impartial observers have also found that some of the outbreaks have been precipitated by the Jews themselves.” This kind of activity never appeared in the United States.

Note: We are using the Noontide Press publication of The International Jew — The World’s Foremost Problem which can be found online here as a pdf file.

 
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Nationalism and the Holocaust: A Reply to Johnson

Published on August 8, 2012 by in Blog

By Thomas Dalton

July 31, 2012

(This article was freely distributed by Michael Santomauro, publisher of  Debating the Holocaust, with permission of the author, after The Occidental Observer refused to publish it.  Thomas Dalton, Ph.D. writes for Inconvenient History Online Journal and is the author of Debating the Holocaust.)

“In the period of just six years, from 1933 to 1939, and amidst a global depression, Germany rose from a ruined, bankrupt nation to the strongest on Earth.  The Holocaust—the real event—is a nationalist success story. Rein in Jewish-controlled banks and capitalist enterprises, restore national integrity to the media, expel Jews from the seat of governmental power…and your nation will flourish.  What better lesson could revisionism provide?” … Thomas Dalton 

Greg Johnson’s concise and articulate essay, “Dealing with the Holocaust”, is to be commended for grappling intelligently with two very controversial topics: White Nationalism and the Holocaust.  But amidst his many insightful observations, I sense a kind of misunderstanding of the nature of Holocaust revisionism, and an undervaluation of the role that it can play.  What follows are a few thoughts to clarify and elaborate on the important issues he raises.

Johnson’s basic position is this:  Revisionism is useful in its own field of inquiry, namely history, but is of dubious value to any White Nationalist movement.  This is true because (a) there is no necessary connection between the two topics; (b) a fixation on history is unhealthy for any forward-looking nationalist movement; (c) any revisionist successes (lower death tolls, explaining away the gas chambers, etc) are irrelevant; (d) the standard Holocaust narrative is actually useful for nationalist causes; and (e) revisionism avoids the moral and psychological basis for Jewish oppression of whites, and thus overlooks the central issue at hand.  I will address each of these points.

As an advocate of the “New Right” form of White Nationalism, Johnson recognizes and accepts that he cannot ignore the Holocaust question.  His answer to this question is two-fold.  First, we must promote a “universal” form of nationalism, on the principle that all peoples should desire to govern themselves on an ethnonationalist basis.  The Jews certainly wish this for themselves, and they are right to do so.  But what’s good for the Jewish goose is good for the white gander.  (As well, presumably, for Latinos, blacks, Asians, and so on.)

This is not a radical position; in fact it was the status quo for most of human history.  Humans have always been “nationalists”, where a ‘nation’ is defined as a group of people that share a common culture or ethnicity.  Throughout history, culture and ethnicity have largely overlapped.  People lived in ethnically or racially homogeneous societies, relatively speaking.  The primary exceptions were those empires that grew sufficiently large to encompass other ethnic groups; their diversity then contributed to their downfall.  Only in recent times—by which I mean, the past century or so—have we abandoned ethnonationalism.  We are now seeing the consequences.  Ethnic diversity is not a human evolutionary condition, and we ought not expect it to be a viable form of social order.

The second part of the answer is rather simple:  “move on”, “step over it”.  I understand the need to not linger on historical tragedies, and I agree that a strong culture must be able to forget, but this part of the solution is inadequate.  For one thing, it comes perilously close to “ignoring” the Holocaust—something we were just recommended to avoid.  Furthermore, it conflicts with the later call to utilize the Holocaust tale to our (nationalist) advantage.  These recommendations are mutually incompatible.  But more importantly, the “move on” approach implicitly rejects the usefulness of revisionism—a mistake, as I will argue.

The virtue of universal nationalism is that it says to all people, “You have a right to govern yourselves, and to not be dominated by others, whether an external power or any minority group within your national boundaries.”  This is true self-determination, and it is a universal human right.  Whites are an identifiable ethnic group, and, like all others, they do hold the right to self-determination.  Jews appear white, but by their own estimation, and according to human genetics, they are a distinct ethnicity; in fact the same is true for many Middle Easterners.  A truly Euro-American white nationalism must be free to self-govern, away from dominating control by Jewish or other near-white ethnicities.

But more to the point, such nationalism is, in principle, independent of events like the Holocaust—precisely as Johnson says.  In theory, they are distinct issues.  The real question is the pragmatic one:  In practice, in the actual world of today, is revisionism important to ethnonationalism?  Johnson says no, calling it “rather clumsy” at best; I disagree.  Granted, it has its drawbacks.  But the relevant question is, Do its advantages outweigh its disadvantages?  And here, I think, the answer is yes.

To begin with, the revisionists have a very strong case.  As one who has studied revisionism for several years, and documented the competing arguments in my book Debating the Holocaust, I can attest that it poses multiple, serious challenges to the conventional view—challenges that have been either weakly responded to, or, more commonly, ignored.  The many absurdities and inconsistencies of the survivor claims is only one problematic area.  The dearth of human remains, the illogical gassing procedures, wartime air photos, and the lengthy propaganda history of “6 million” suffering Jews (dating back to the late 1800s), all conspire to seriously undermine orthodox claims.  If there were rational answers to these challenges, surely by now the experts would have responded.  Instead, they react with silence, even as they subtly back down from the hardline position.  Recent expert analyses, for example, hardly mention witness statements any more.  Some, such as Peter Longerich’s long-awaited study Holocaust (2010), go further, refusing even to cite the famous “6 million” figure at all.  Orthodoxy is gradually retrenching, but popular media is lagging behind—which is why, as Johnson complains, we see no larger effects so far.

The strength of the revisionist case is precisely why they have been banned, censored, and outlawed.  Johnson notes, but underestimates, the fear that the Jewish power structure has in this matter.  He is right to observe that the Holocaust is not a “source” of their power; Jews have had disproportionate power in western nations for centuries.  But neither is it merely an “expression” of Jewish power, as he (and Mark Weber) claim.  If this were so, and if it was found to be deficient, they would simply find other ways of expressing their power.  Rather, it is a means—their most important means for effecting control.  Jews fear revisionism because it threatens to destroy their strongest guilt-tool.  They have invested much in this story, and it would be very costly and time-consuming for them to develop another, equally-effective tool.

Because the power structure has no response to revisionism except censorship, the general public, and whites in particular, can be given a “proof,” of sorts, of Jewish duplicity.  The Holocaust is a canonical case of Jewish deception and manipulation, and revisionism lays bare that fact.  Many of the central revisionist arguments are clear and obvious; they require little in the way of specialized knowledge.  Any non-Jew with a shred of rationality can be shown that they have been largely (though not completely) duped; this should make any thinking person more than a little angry.

The fact that Jewish fatality numbers never will go to zero, as Johnson emphasizes, does not really matter.  The likely death toll is perhaps 10% of the claimed figures.  A 90% reduction in deaths is not just some minor fiddling around the edges; it is a wholesale collapse of “the most well-documented event in history.”  Those who have staked their careers and incomes on this event will be in for a rude awakening.

Of course, there will be some who will say “500,000 Jewish deaths is still a Holocaust.”  Others will say, “Even one death is a tragedy.”  And on a personal level, it is.  For the Jews, 500,000 deaths is a Holocaust.  For whites, or humanity at large, it is a mere blip—one percent of the roughly 50 million deaths in World War II.  If it comes to this, and this fact is made known, the leading guilt-tool is effectively destroyed.  Without guilt, the moral burden is relieved.  And once the source of the false guilt is seen to lay in Jewish-inspired propaganda, white (and other) nationalisms will certainly benefit.

But for nationalist movements to realize maximum gain, the whole manipulation process must be spelled out.  Jews are less than two percent of the US population; in both Europe and Russia, the figure is roughly 0.2 percent.  These numbers are too small for direct personal control of finance, media, and government, so they rely heavily on two groups of servants:  their well-paid (and usually white!) corporate and governmental lackeys, and their ideological lackeys—primarily (white!) Christian Zionists and liberal leftists.  The lackeys have done, and continue to do, much of the legwork in protecting the orthodox Holocaust story, and in defending Jews generally.  And because they are predominantly white, they pose a special challenge to White Nationalism.  Downplaying revisionism lets these folks off the hook.

Finally, a few additional thoughts to bear in mind:

  •         It is frankly a bit ridiculous to attempt to use the conventional Holocaust story as a lesson in the evils of genocide, on behalf of whites.  This story is destined either to collapse or to undergo drastic curtailment; the last thing white nationalists need is to hitch their wagon to a dying horse.
  •         The claim that revisionist success would be a “political windfall” for Jews is likewise groundless.  Even if the Allies played a role in the scam—which they probably did, to cover for their own war crimes—few today will hold that against present-day whites.  It will rewrite Allied history, as it should, but even the Jews would be unable to turn this fact to their advantage.  They themselves are far more implicated than any war-era allies.
  •         It seems like a losing strategy to cry “white genocide.”  The white American population will continue to grow, slowly, for at least the next century, and likely well beyond.  European white populations are likewise plateauing, but won’t be dropping significantly, let alone vanishing, any time in the coming centuries.  True, whites will be outpaced by minority groups, and they will gradually lose hegemonic power.  This is regrettable.  But it is far short of genocide.  And lacking a valid genocide claim, the conventional Holocaust story loses all relevancy. 
  •         An obsession with a “long memory” is assuredly not good, but it is not as pernicious as Johnson suggests.  For one thing, all strong nationalist movements and cultures have long memories; perhaps they all are sick, but this is unlikely.  Second, that paragon of ethnonationalist toughness and persistence, the Jews, have a longer memory than anyone—so it can’t be that fatal.  Third, simple justice demands a long memory, certainly at least as far back as WW2.  Yes, the Holocaust story should ultimately be forgotten—after justice prevails.
  •       Johnson is surely correct to say that there are deeper moral and psychological issues at play, to explain why so many whites succumb to Jewish guilt-ploys.  A Jewish-inspired Christianity is certainly a large part of the explanation.  Undoubtedly, we need a Nietzschean transvaluation of all values.  No one is suggesting that we all drop everything and become full-time revisionists.  But there is clearly an important role for such work in any contemporary nationalist movement.  We can trim the branches even as we hack away at the roots.

Lastly, we should not forget that the “Holocaust question” is only one, albeit important, aspect of a much larger and longer-standing “Jewish Question.”  Jews don’t just work against whites; they work against everyone.  One of the earliest recorded western commentaries on the Jews—that of Hecateus, circa 300 BC—noted that “Moses introduced a way of life which was, to a certain extent, misanthropic and hostile to foreigners.”  This is documented in the Old Testament, and in the (self-)view of the Jews as God’s chosen.  Several early commentators, most notably the great Roman historian Tacitus, wrote about the Jews’ “hatred of the human race.”  When a detested ethnicity gains power, popular outrage naturally grows.  Thus the Jews came to be harassed, beaten, humiliated, and ultimately expelled from many nations of Europe. Nazi Germany was only the latest in a long chain of such expulsions.

This is a central aspect of revisionism, and one that is insufficiently appreciated.  As the revisionists argue, there is little evidence that the Nazis wanted to deliberately kill all, or even most, of their Jews; they simply wanted them out.  All those concentration camps and cattle-car journeys were, for the most part, aspects of an enforced evacuation program.  Only late in the war did they become a means of forced labor.  Hence the event known as “the Holocaust” is best read as a nationalist effort to, once again, drive out the Jews—all the while knowing that many would die in the wartime conditions.

But the vital point is, it worked.  In the period of just six years, from 1933 to 1939, and amidst a global depression, Germany rose from a ruined, bankrupt nation to the strongest on Earth.  The Holocaust—the real event—is a nationalist success story.  Rein in Jewish-controlled banks and capitalist enterprises, restore national integrity to the media, expel Jews from the seat of governmental power…and your nation will flourish.  What better lesson could revisionism provide?

In 1771, Voltaire wrote of the Jews, “they are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts…  I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.”  We should take Voltaire’s warning to heart.  White Nationalism has an important role to play, and to be effective it must defend historical accuracy, and use this to demolish the leading Jewish guilt-tool, the Holocaust.

 
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On Identity

Who is us?

A spectrum of emotional indicators of identity: empathy, sympathy, apathy, and antipathy.

The layers of the biological onion: self, family, clan, tribe, ethny/nation, race/species, animal/vegatable, life as a whole.

For White identity the focus is on mid-sized groupings (ethnic, national, racial) whose nature is ideological (memetic) as well as biological (genetic).

How and why jews pathologize and demonize these identities, specifically for Whites who express them.

Who determines who us is. How biology limits and shapes ideology, but ideological divides and shifts, driving long-term biological change. The United States of America is an example of this, with the identity shifting over time from European and Christian under White rule, to a multi-racial “nation of immigrants” under jewish rule.

I quote The Humpty-Dumpty Theory of Language, from Lewis Carroll’s Through the Looking Glass, in preparation for subsequent examination of mainstream conceptions of group identity:

“I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory’,” Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t- till I tell you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’”

“But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument’,” Alice objected.

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean- neither more nor less.”

“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master-that’s all.”

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We need a White man’s ADL

August 6, 2012

Tanstaafl and David Baillie join Carolyn to talk about the success had by Jewish organizations like the Anti-Defamation League in bringing US attitudes and policies in conformity to what is good for Jews. They ask:  Can we do the same thing for Whites?

Carolyn goes through the history of the ADL and concludes that their #1 enemy is “Holocaust denial” and their #2 enemy is the Christian Identity movement. Tanstaafl brings his usual precision to bear on pointing out their methods and arguments. David makes a point that we need to open up our mouths – that is, not be afraid to say what we really think in public. The latest media demonizing of whites as “supremacist neo-nazis ” in the case of Wade Michael Page, the Sikh Temple shooter, is discussed.

This program could have gone on for another two hours, but the point is that an Anti-Defamation League for Whites should be formed to protect us from Jewish hatred that is aimed at us in the United States of America. Pictured right: Abe Foxman claims to represent American values when he hates American Whites.

 

 
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Rodney Martin on Nadja, Greg and Mark

August 4, 2012

Rodney Martin of World View Foundations is Carolyn’s guest for a discussion that begins with the beautiful Nadja Drygalla (pictured right), the German Olympic rower who was sent home from London like a bad child when it was publicized that her boyfriend was “a member of the ‘Rostock National Socialists’” who had run in a state election on the NPD (National Party) ticket. Martin also reported on Greek triple jumper Voula Papachristou, said to be a supporter of Golden Dawn, who was expelled from the games for a “racist tweet.”

In the second hour, Rodney and Carolyn turn to the subject of Greg Johnson and Mark Weber — the former’s confusing Old Right-New Right formalization, and how the  latter’s bad management and laziness  has turned the once prestigious IHR into a failing and continually broke organization . The question then asked was whether these two are working together for some purpose.

From amongst those listening to the live broadcast, several good comments were sent in and read on air. Apologies for those that were missed.

 

 
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Everything Greg Johnson knows about the ‘Holocaust’ he learned from Mark Weber

Published on August 3, 2012 by in Blog

By Carolyn Yeager

The latest White Nationalist figure to announce his flight from Holocaust Revisionism is the editor of Counter-Currents Publishing, Greg Johnson. In an article titled “Dealing with The Holocaust” published on June 20 at the Occidental Observer, Johnson gave a whole list of reasons why Holocaust Revisionism was not “necessary” to the prospering of what he has dubbed the North American New Right. Just three years ago, Mark Weber used virtually identical reasons to explain why Holocaust Revisionism had become “irrelevant” to the work of the Institute for Historical Review (IHR).

Greg Johnson’s article attracted 757 comments both pro and con, long and short, before being closed to more, and its premises are still being argued. Mark Weber’s 2009 “How Relevant is Holocaust Revisionism?” created a storm of controversy and ill-will that remains to this day. These arguments are therefore not ones that we will pass by quickly as we move on to other concerns, but they strike a deep chord in our collective White consciousness as to who we are, where we’re going and how we will get there.

In this article, I only intend to show the unmistakable similarity between the words used by Johnson and those used by Mark Weber in their respective essays. Of course, Weber’s came first. In connection with this, please see my recent blog post: The Battle for the IHR (posted July 17).

Mark Weber, for his part, has followed in the footsteps of historian David Irving, who determined after his 2005-06 stay in an Austrian prison for “holocaust denial” that there really was a Holocaust after all. Irving realized he would not sell any more books about the Nazi hierarchy unless he ties this hierarchy to the Jewish-approved WWII narrative, with just some small variations to create a sense of surprise for the public. Irving has flip-flopped since his arrest, but has now settled on the assertion that “The Nazis did murder millions of Jews” – and he is being mimicked by Mark Weber, who around that time began taking on the same view.

Weber, like Irving, is also concerned with sales. He wrote in his “Relevant” article that “over the past ten years, sales of IHR books, discs and requests for interviews about Holocaust history have steadily declined.” [Not an exact quote - cy] At the same time, interest in Jewish-Zionist power and the role of Jews in society increased, he wrote. It didn’t take Weber long to go where he thought the money was – to switch the emphasis of the IHR in that direction. However, it didn’t pan out in the long run because it’s known today that the IHR, with Weber at the helm, is suffering a long-term demise, the cause of which is probably that it doesn’t stand for anything.

When Greg Johnson began Counter-Currents Publishing two years ago after a short stint as editor at The Occidental Quarterly magazine, his views on the ‘Holocaust’ were not known, and certainly not an issue. I doubt that he had any defined views. The Counter-Currents website is a blog that features articles on and by leading intellectuals of the “New Right” along with book and movie reviews. At the same time, Johnson announced that he’s the representative of something he calls the “North American New Right,” making a big deal out of a difference he sees in “New Right” vs “Old Right” (by which he means Nazism, Fascism, and similar movements of the 1920’s-40’s).

In the article under consideration, Johnson writes,

The idea of ethnonationalism is true and good, regardless of the real and imagined crimes, mistakes, and misfortunes of the Old Right. Thus we feel no need to “deny,” minimize, or revise the Holocaust, just as the New Left felt no need to tie its projects to “Gulag revisionism.”

In other words, real crimes committed in the past (premier among them being ‘The Holocaust’)  should be accepted by us now without trying to minimize or deny them.  Johnson, the ‘New Right’ White Nationalist, has learned from Mark Weber, the revisionist, who wrote:

Holocaust revisionism is not the same thing as revisionism about the Third Reich or the causes, conduct, and consequences of World War II [which Weber likes to talk about]. Nor does it constitute Holocaust revisionism to compare the Holocaust to other genocides or discuss its overall meaning.

Thus Weber and Johnson can feel free to talk about such things as genocide and WWII, and even Hitler [which are popular topics - cy], without venturing into the much more dangerous territory of Holocaust Revisionism.

Why did Johnson write about the “Holocaust” at all then? The only answer he gives is this:

I simply wish to argue that Holocaust revisionism is not a necessary component of our intellectual project. We don’t need it. Which is not the same thing as saying that it is a hindrance, or that it cannot help under any circumstances, although I will argue that it is often a distraction.

This is exactly the reason Mark Weber gave for writing “How Relevant is Holocaust Revisionism?”

Setting straight the historical record about the wartime fate of Europe’s Jews is a worthy endeavor. But there should be no illusions about its social-political relevance. In the real world struggle against Jewish-Zionist power, Holocaust revisionism has proved to be as much a hindrance as a help.

But Johnson admits:

I have never been all that interested in Holocaust revisionism, simply because my main concern is with the genocide being committed against our own people today, not the real or imagined crimes committed by our people in the past. And the Holocaust strikes me as having little to do with the deep causes of our racial plight and even less to do with the solutions.  [Compare this with Weber’s “there should be no illusions about its social-political relevance”]

Johnson wrote in a comment to Hadding Scott:

(1) Jews were singled out for especially harsh treatment by the Germans, and (2) countless innocent Jews lost their lives because of that policy. In the end, that is all one need claim to say that the Jews suffered their greatest tragedy at the hands of the Third Reich during World War II.

Again, this comes straight from Mark Weber:

Jews in Europe were, in fact, singled out during the war years for especially severe treatment.

And …

No informed person disputes that Europe’s Jews did, in fact, suffer a great catastrophe during the Second World War. Millions were forced from their homes and deported to brutal internment in crowded ghettos and camps. Jewish communities across Central and Eastern Europe, large and small, were wiped out. Millions lost their lives. When the war ended in 1945, most of the Jews of Germany, Poland, the Netherlands and others countries were gone.

Gone where, he is not interested in looking into. We will discover that the job is “too difficult” for this ex-revisionist.

Greg Johnson wrote in a comment to me on the article:

Back in 2001, a very well-informed gentleman sat me down to explain Holocaust revisionism. The first words out of his mouth were, “No serious revisionist denies that a very large number of innocent Jews died as a result of the Third Reich’s policy of deporting Jews to concentration camps.” I said, “Stop right there. That’s all I need to hear.”

This “well-informed gentleman” has to be Mark Weber. Why didn’t Johnson identify Weber as his source of information? You will have to know Greg Johnson to know the answer to that, but it seems to me that Johnson simply doesn’t want people to know his methods of operation – that almost everything he does is copied from someone else; that he is not the “thinker” he has convinced so many people he is.

And indeed, Mark Weber also copies almost everything he does from someone else, and has really no original ideas. As I said, Weber’s whole current world view comes from David Irving, whereas it used to come from the revisionists Arthur Butz, Robert Faurisson, etc.

Johnson mentions Weber once in his article and links to his “Relevant” essay, when he says:

First, as Mark Weber has pointed out, the cultural and political power of the Holocaust is not the foundation of Jewish power, it is an expression of pre-existing Jewish power. Before World War II, Jews already had an enormous amount of power in the United States (see here, p. 9ff): enough power to deliver the United States into two World Wars, for instance. Jewish power was based on over-representation in banking, business, law, politics, academia, and the news and entertainment media.

To be factual, revisionists don’t say the “Holocaust” is the foundation of Jewish power. This is a straw man set up by Weber to give him an argument for ditching revisionism at the IHR.  But because the ‘Holo-hoax’ is not the foundation of Jewish power, is that a reason to ignore it and let it grow into even more massive proportions? It has rightly been called one of the, if not the, main pillars of the “blank check” Jews enjoy in the world since 1945.  Johnson, basing it on Weber, here identifies over-representation in banking and other industries as what Jewish power rests on. Well then, what is the IHR or Counter Currents doing about Jewish over-representation in banking, business, law, politics, academia, and the news and entertainment media? Weber’s favorite topics are the Israel-Palestine conflict and Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich! When does the IHR talk about the Federal Reserve? Or go after real Jewish power?

The IHR and Mark Weber don’t address these “bases of Jewish Power,” except rarely, because they are too difficult. Weber gets by with just reading and passing around news stories about Israel and Adolf Hitler without any mental stress or hard work. Please take note of how many times Weber speaks, in a 2009 radio interview on VoR, about not doing certain things anymore because they are too difficult. Here are two instances:

But it’s difficult to get people to accept because it’s true that National-Socialists were especially harsh in their treatment of Jews. Jews were rounded up, transported across Europe, put in ghettos and concentration camps – many Jews died in these camps. MILLIONS of JEWS lost their lives.
It’s undeniable that Europe’s Jews suffered a catastrophe, no doubt about it. The extent is still questioned.

It’s therefore difficult to persuade most people to accept that the Holocaust is a lie or a hoax.

These are exactly the words Greg Johnson used in the latter part of his comment to me, continued from above:

I didn’t need to hear any more [from the “well-informed gentleman" – Mark Weber] because he opened by admitting all the Jews need to establish that a great tragedy befell their people in the Second World War.

[…]

Even if Revisionists refuted every single one of these [fake] stories, the Holocaust still stands because of that great big pile of dead Jews, which is never going to be conjured away — particularly by the morally obtuse quibbling about definitions offered by Hadding Scott.

Mark Weber also said on the 2009 radio program linked to above:

Disputing numbers and methods of how people died comes across to most people as quibbling, when for most people the catastrophe was undeniably great enough that it’s hard to dispute that.

Greg Johnson continued in 2012:

So I just don’t waste my precious time on Holocaust revisionism, because no accretion of facts, details, etc. is going to alter the facts that the Germans singled Jews out for especially harsh treatment, and a great number of people died for no other reason than the fact they were Jews. That should be Holocaust enough for anyone.

For my own part, I don’t think any quibbling, morally obtuse or otherwise, can alter the fact that Greg Johnson and Mark Weber are working together to sideline Holocaust Revisionism because they don’t want to personally associate with it but they do want to appear as being at the forefront – in the vanguard – of the fight for both historical accuracy and the moral high ground. This makes me want to work harder than ever for the victory of Holocaust Revisionism (meaning by that the widespread acceptance that it is a hoax1 perpetrated by the still-enemies of true nationalism), and I must add that neither Greg Johnson nor Mark Weber are very knowledgeable about the subject.

They are good at thinking about money however. It has come to my attention that Johnson is seeking 501c3 status [non-taxable, non-profit] for his Counter-Currents Publishing-North American New Right, just as the IHR has always had. The major benefit of this is that one can tell prospective donors (specifically large ones) that their donation is tax-deductible.

I will probably write more about this topic in the future, with the goal of helping you, the reader, make informed decisions about where you want your contributed money to go. As we say on the radio, “Thanks for listening.”

1. The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, Arthur Butz, 1976. Theses and Dissertation Press edition, 2003.

 
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“The International Jew” Study Hour – Episode 6

August 2, 2012

Hadding Scott and Carolyn Yeager read and comment on Chapter 5, “Anti-Semitism – Will It Appear in the U.S.?

Pictured right:  In 1880 the Jewish population of the United States was about 250,000. Over the next forty years more than two million eastern European Jews – about one-third of the entire Jewish population there – emigrated to the United States.

 

Note: We are using the Noontide Press publication of The International Jew — The World’s Foremost Problem which can be found online here as a pdf file.


 

 
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